If he is the HR Director I thought most if not all management is required to work more than 40 hours a week Since they aare salary workers and many have contracts. It sounds like you have plenty to get him on and hopefully the ones who work under him will open up about his performance. I agree with the other and do not bring religion into this at all. You have enough information with out it unless he is preaching to the employees then that is a different matter.
Aunt Fancy
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I had a funny feeling he was a Witness... and now I need help.
by noontide inim in a bit of a bind and im not quite sure what (if anything) i can do about it.
i was recently hired as a business consultant for a rather large company.
the company that hired me mentioned that they are concerned about a certain department and the way its being run, as this department affects every other department in the company.
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How to cope with depression?
by make yourself ini know its very common for jws and ex jws to deal with depression.
maybe it's a side effect of cognitive dissonance or the whole outlook on life being a jw.
but what are some ways to cope with depression?
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Aunt Fancy
About a year after I started to study i became very depressed. I went to numerous therapists, drs and tried many forms of medication. I got so bad I didn't want to leave the house at times and then my physical health took a huge toll. This went on for 30 years until I finally found an excellent therapist who helped me along with a natural dr. I went off all of my meds right before we left the religion and it is just amazing how connected this is. I am back to my pre-cult health for the most part.
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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...
by Faithful Witness inshe has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
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Aunt Fancy
I have missed some posts because I don't understand why you are putting yourself through this. I have to agree with CultBgone in this matter. You are allowing negative people and teachings to get into your mind and it is not healthy. If you are trying to get family out that is another matter but why study with people you barely know or that don't have any respect for you? They don't care about you as a human being but you are a number they can add to their field service report.
I would not even allow them back into my home with the way they treated you the last time by degrading you. I would call them and tell them you are not interested and please do not come back, end of story.
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Feeling disloyal
by stirred but not shaken ini've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.
after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".
those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.
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Welcome Shaken, I was in for 30 years and my husband 58 so we understand what it feels like to believe something for most of your life and then to wake up and find out it is a lie. It does get better and one of the things that helped us was to find interests and that will help you meet new people that will not judge you or put conditions on your friendship. It also helps to read what you can about this religion and also to read biographies of former JW's.
Hang in there because it does get much better with time. I would love to hear more from you.
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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...
by Faithful Witness inshe has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
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I hope it went well, waiting to hear all about it.
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Did you ever write your disassociation letter?
by make yourself inbut never gave it to the elders or anyone in the congregation?
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I wrote one out on my IPad but never sent it and I put all of my anger and feelings down like I was going to send it. I felt some relief after I did this. We faded 21 months ago and I don't plan on sending it at this point. I am not sure what is the right thing to do. If you send it then you are telling them you agree with them and you are playing by their rules as Blondie said but then I understand what Confused said about cutting ties to an organization you don't want your name attached to. When we faded we told ourselves to take our time and don't do anything on the spur of the moment and that has worked for us so far. If they come after us then that is a different thing and we will make a decision when that time comes which I expect it during Christmas because I am going to put up some outside decorations this year.
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Involved with a JW woman
by jonza inokay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.
i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.
we're in love and seriously want to be together.
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I was not raised as a JW but met my husband who was DF'd when we met. I was raised as a Presbyterian and because of being alone far away from my family, divorced with a young child I was easily loved bombed by his family and friends. Needless to say I encouraged him to go back to meetings and I went with him (huge mistake) and I was in for 30 long years and he was in for 58 years.
After fading now for 21 months with my husband I am not sure what I believe and I would never want anyone to preasure me into going to another church or joing another religion. Whenever I hear people start to talk about what someone should believe it makes me want to scream. Please, please, please do not try to convert her to yours at this point. You want to get her out and then she should do her own research to see where she feels comfortable and if she even wants to be part of a religion which is very common among exjw's to not want anything to do with religion. You need to understand that we have been spiritually abused so many of us do not feel safe turning to religion.
Try to see if you can get her to read Crisis of Consiense and Steven Hassen's books. I was able to get my husband out by getting him to read CoC. Once she realizes that most of their beliefs are false you can go from there. Just another point, when my husband first started reading the book he was so sure that most of the doctrine was correct but the more he read the more he realized it was mostly false. He now will celebrate everything I want to and has no guilt feelings.
Best wishes to you and I hope you can get her out before you take the step of living together or getting married. It sure will make your life together much healthier.
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Ahhh Dagnabbit
by Jon Preston inwell afyer two months i get a message from an elder wanting to go out in service a few nights a week and to hang out more....i must now be labelled in the spiritually weak and reach out to group in my hall.
my hall is very nice and so are the people but dagnabbit i hate small towns.... i wonder if i should say no or just nite the bullet on behalf of our fade...hmm decisions.
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I would not even answer the phone or the door. We faded 21 months ago and we just don't respond to anyone. You will prolong it if you start to go out service. Once we found out the real truth neither of us could go to another meeting or out in service. My husband had a three year bible study that was going to Sunday meetings and he even went to him and took hours to tell him what he taught him was not the truth. He could not turn him over to another person to let them continue with the lies.
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Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father
by Zana inmy wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.
my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .
sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.
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You were given a lot of great advice. I highly recommend reading Steven Hassen's books. You want to do everything in your power to keep your children from being baptized into the religion. If you ask most JW's who grew up in the religion they will tell you they did not enjoy being a JW and missing out on so many enjoyable things plus getting a good education because education is not important to JW's.
Your wife may be staying because it is her social network. Because she is a liberal JW I am sure is not treated as well as others plus she has an unbelieving mate which adds to that. You may be able to get her out and she will thank you for that someday.
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10 Pragmatic facts why Jehovah's Witnesses can't face reality
by Terry in1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own version, interpretations and meanings.. a.only watchtower approved publications are allowed.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.
curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms over them.
2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona: "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as selfish and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is crushed and door-to-door ministry substituted as "worthy" endeavors.. c.self-conscious obsession permeates witness awareness as each person is transformed into a public spectacle of performance for judgement.. d.since you aren't an individual you don't really have a right to fall in love and marry or educate or earn.
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Aunt Fancy
Excellent information. I came in after I married my inactive JW husband and we went to the meetings together and then I got baptized. He noticed I changed once I became a JW but he couldn't put it all together. I was in for 30 years and about a month ago my Mom told me she was happy to see the old Aunt Fancy with the lilt in her step. It has been 21 months since we walked away and I am feeling like my old self more and more each day.